This skull belonged to a Pleistocene wolf that lived 26,000 years ago
near the Trou des Nutons cave in Belgium. This wolf species was
particularly large.
Royal Belgian Institute of Natural Sciences
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Erica
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I think that dogs really are our friends because they are very close to us, and we are very close to them. If you have an own dog, you would understand that dogs really are nice to have around. You can play with them, take them for walks, run with them, and just have fun with them. This was probably how it was about 13,000 years ago when humans took dogs as pets and became very close to them. Dogs learn to trust and love you, as you do in the same way with your own dog. I think that this was a great article not only because it has great information, also because it related everything together and had a great way of describing and putting everything into detail. I liked how they explained where dogs originated from, and how they actually became man's best friend. We don't know for sure where dogs actually originated from, but we do know that dogs became man's best friend man years ago. I belive that dogs originated in Europe. Their ancestor is also the European Wolf. Whether it's hunting or playing, a dog is the best pet you could ever wish for.
I would like to respectfully disagree with Erica. I don't think that 13,000 years ago people were playing with dogs. It seemed to me that they used dogs to hunt and catch prey as apposes to walking them. Also, their is a big difference between today's dogs and dogs from about 11,000 BC. I also disagree with the idea that they explained how dogs became mans just friend and that they tied it up nicely. To be it was just an argument between scientists, their was no correct theory, they just said what they would do, (when they talked about the ancient cell's nucleus) they never did it though and it kind of left you "off edge". They also said that the European wold was NOT the closest ancestor to the dogs... they never said what was. They even say in the article "In the meantime, experts are left to ponder this latest development, as well as the reason why scientists have argued so heatedly about the origin of dogs." So overall, I completely disagree with Erica.
I think that loyalty was not initially "written into dog's DNA." If they have been close with humans for as long as these scientists say, then they have had a lot of time to adjust. It is like a natural domestication of an entire species.
I think that loyalty was not initially "written into dog's DNA." If they have been close with humans for as long as these scientists say, then they have had a lot of time to adjust. It is like a natural domestication of an entire species.
I wonder if history will repeat its self and humans will domesticate another animal over a long period of time. Maybe like the last time it will be equally as dangerous in our minds but over time we will learn to accept it and eventually have it in our house as a pet. Sharks or tigers for example. Of course this idea is completely absurd because over time we have domesticated a species as well as left the rest behind to choke on factory fumes and smog.
I agree with Sam and disagree with Erica (respectfully , of course). 13,000 years ago, dogs would have been used to hunt and protect, not to play ball with. It was afterwards, when we moved into a more civilized age and advanced more in technology that we started using dogs as friends and playmates rather than for hunting. I would also like to agree with Sam on another point: Why in the article they ended with how overtime man became friendlier with the dog and just wrapped it up. There has to be more discussion on this topic. No offense Erica, but I really don't like how you ended your paragraph with an opinion statement, because some people don't feel that way. Anyway,I think that this was a well written, clear article, but I do think that it could have been more complete.
I disagree with Erica (respectfully). I think that humans saw the potential in dogs hunting. After the dogs would hunt animals with the humans I thought that maybe an adolescent played with the dog. I think after adolescents played with the dogs adults eventually joined in. After a period of time I think that dogs were used as gifts for children to play with and for adults to hunt with. Once man adapted over time I think the dog became more of a family pet to be used for playing and hunting at the same time. Over time man became more domestic. Once cities were built people couldn't use their dog for hunting and more for just a playful family dog. My dog is a hunting dog so I do hunt with him, but I also use him as being a playful domestic backyard dog.
I disagree with Erica (respectfully). I think that humans saw the potential in dogs hunting. After the dogs would hunt animals with the humans I thought that maybe an adolescent played with the dog. I think after adolescents played with the dogs adults eventually joined in. After a period of time I think that dogs were used as gifts for children to play with and for adults to hunt with. Once man adapted over time I think the dog became more of a family pet to be used for playing and hunting at the same time. Over time man became more domestic. Once cities were built people couldn't use their dog for hunting and more for just a playful family dog. My dog is a hunting dog so I do hunt with him, but I also use him as being a playful domestic backyard dog.
This article really fits me, because I have actually been wondering this for a long time now. I disagree with Sam and agree with Erica, dogs really are our friends. Having a dog as a pet actually helps you in terms of exercise, bonding, and even learning about the art of having a dog as a pet. However, Sam is also right, there was a big difference of how people thought of dogs now and how they thought of them a decade and a half ago. These days, dogs get much more respect. Before they were just known as pests, hostile creatures. I have a puppy myself though as a pet, and she has actually helped me get more fit, and gave me someone to relate with at my house. So overall, I think dogs are one of the best if not the best pet you can have.
I would also like to disagree with Erica. I agree with Hugh in that when the dogs went hunting along with the humans the humans saw the use in the dogs so they could hunt with the humans. I also agree with Arthur and Sam. I agree with Jonas that dogs these days are very nice as house pets if you can take care of them. Some Boys, maybe, would keep a dog to hunt with a little bit, maybe to have fun with but there was no "fetch" or "chase the ball" 13 hundred years ago. Anyway I found this article very enjoyable and I enjoyed hearing about how wolfs first started following along with the humans and how humans then saw what the dogs could be used for.
I agree with Sam. I love dogs, but I don't think people treated them like we treated them today. A boy in olden times wouldn't go walk his dog, he would learn to hunt and to hunt with a dog. Back then, dogs were used to catch food. They weren't supposed to be played with, they were supposed to be used as a hunting dog. In the article it said, scientists found a man cradling a puppy in Israel. This show that 12,000 people did play with dogs. Maybe they took care of them until they could hunt and then they would hunt with the humans. Either way, I think this article was really informing.
This article was amazing. It was really well written and thought out, and all the ideas were clear. I have never had a dog, so I can't say anything about bonds we may have with them, but I do notice that some of the other scientists seem awfully spiteful. I don't think that this idea is perfect, because as Sam said, it doesn't seem like their ideas should come to a close so easily. I saw a documentary on a place where they have been breeding foxes with each other, choosing only the nicest ones to be bred again, and they noticed that eventually their snouts got shorter, and their tails got curlier, resulting in a fox-puggish sort of thing. It was cute, though! I think this article was a good, informative article and thanks to Lilah for getting it. I really enjoyed this article.
I don't know what to say about this article. It wasn't very clear, or concise, for that matter. It was more of a bickering: Did wolves evolve into our dogs 13,000 or 32,100 years ago? Although there was this bickering, I think that is what the article wanted us to think. What everybody has been saying is right. This is the reason humans like dogs. They are able to adapt and meet your needs, whether you need a hunting dog, a play dog, or just a normal dog, they can do that. This brings me to my question, which is: Were there different types of wolves and dogs back then? My answer was something Extremely interesting. Dogs and humans may have evolved together. This might be the reason we have different kinds of dogs! Some people hunted, making hunting dogs. Other played, making playful dogs. Some didn't do much, making indoor dogs! As you can see, it all ties together. As a dog owner of my own, it is nice to know where my dog came from.
This article left me wondering about how dogs became our pets. I have a small, white dog, so I can relate to this article. My dog is very attached to my family, and lost her hair when my family went on a trip for 5 days. I've never really thought about how dogs became close friends to us, humans. It was a good article, but I was left needing more. I researched and found more information and hypothesis regarding this topic. I thought, could it be possible that dogs domesticated us instead of us domesticating them? Our ancestors have a long history with wolves. Apparently, many cultures have at some point put wolves to extinction. This includes countries such as America, where by 1930 wolves were wiped out in all the states. Wolves eat a lot, and usually consume one deer per ten wolves. They also don't share and are very protective of their food which would be strange because dogs are one of man's best friend. The aggressive wolves were probably killed, whereas the amiable ones were tolerated by humans. This friendliness could possibly have caused numerous dogs to have differences such as floppy ears and wagging tails. Hunting with dogs would give humans an advantage when compared to the ones without dogs. They were and are still used to detect prey. Moose hunters who lived in the alpines, would catch roughly 56 percent more when they had dogs with them. Some even believed that they would starve without dogs. They are also used as a warning system in which they will bark at intruders or trespassers from nearby tribes. Dogs can be very helpful to us who own one as our own pet.
Like others above, I highly doubt there was some sort of immediate connection between canine and man. And especially if you were to say that the whole /species/ bonded with humans right away, that is even more unbelievable. How would we be able to bond with another species if at the time we didn't even know much of our own (it was the Paleoindian period 13,000 years ago, and thus early humans were just settling I believe)?
I think that puppies are very close to us because they are furry, fluffy lumps. I think that we like puppies because thy are very playful and we can cuddle with them.
I think that puppies are very close to us because they are furry, fluffy lumps. I think that we like puppies because thy are very playful and we can cuddle with them.
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I think that dogs really are our friends because they are very close to us, and we are very close to them. If you have an own dog, you would understand that dogs really are nice to have around. You can play with them, take them for walks, run with them, and just have fun with them. This was probably how it was about 13,000 years ago when humans took dogs as pets and became very close to them. Dogs learn to trust and love you, as you do in the same way with your own dog. I think that this was a great article not only because it has great information, also because it related everything together and had a great way of describing and putting everything into detail. I liked how they explained where dogs originated from, and how they actually became man's best friend. We don't know for sure where dogs actually originated from, but we do know that dogs became man's best friend man years ago. I belive that dogs originated in Europe. Their ancestor is also the European Wolf. Whether it's hunting or playing, a dog is the best pet you could ever wish for.
I would like to respectfully disagree with Erica. I don't think that 13,000 years ago people were playing with dogs. It seemed to me that they used dogs to hunt and catch prey as apposes to walking them. Also, their is a big difference between today's dogs and dogs from about 11,000 BC. I also disagree with the idea that they explained how dogs became mans just friend and that they tied it up nicely. To be it was just an argument between scientists, their was no correct theory, they just said what they would do, (when they talked about the ancient cell's nucleus) they never did it though and it kind of left you "off edge". They also said that the European wold was NOT the closest ancestor to the dogs... they never said what was. They even say in the article "In the meantime, experts are left to ponder this latest development, as well as the reason why scientists have argued so heatedly about the origin of dogs." So overall, I completely disagree with Erica.
I think that loyalty was not initially "written into dog's DNA." If they have been close with humans for as long as these scientists say, then they have had a lot of time to adjust. It is like a natural domestication of an entire species.
I think that loyalty was not initially "written into dog's DNA." If they have been close with humans for as long as these scientists say, then they have had a lot of time to adjust. It is like a natural domestication of an entire species.
I wonder if history will repeat its self and humans will domesticate another animal over a long period of time. Maybe like the last time it will be equally as dangerous in our minds but over time we will learn to accept it and eventually have it in our house as a pet. Sharks or tigers for example. Of course this idea is completely absurd because over time we have domesticated a species as well as left the rest behind to choke on factory fumes and smog.
I agree with Sam and disagree with Erica (respectfully , of course). 13,000 years ago, dogs would have been used to hunt and protect, not to play ball with. It was afterwards, when we moved into a more civilized age and advanced more in technology that we started using dogs as friends and playmates rather than for hunting. I would also like to agree with Sam on another point: Why in the article they ended with how overtime man became friendlier with the dog and just wrapped it up. There has to be more discussion on this topic. No offense Erica, but I really don't like how you ended your paragraph with an opinion statement, because some people don't feel that way. Anyway,I think that this was a well written, clear article, but I do think that it could have been more complete.
I disagree with Erica (respectfully). I think that humans saw the potential in dogs hunting. After the dogs would hunt animals with the humans I thought that maybe an adolescent played with the dog. I think after adolescents played with the dogs adults eventually joined in. After a period of time I think that dogs were used as gifts for children to play with and for adults to hunt with. Once man adapted over time I think the dog became more of a family pet to be used for playing and hunting at the same time. Over time man became more domestic. Once cities were built people couldn't use their dog for hunting and more for just a playful family dog. My dog is a hunting dog so I do hunt with him, but I also use him as being a playful domestic backyard dog.
I disagree with Erica (respectfully). I think that humans saw the potential in dogs hunting. After the dogs would hunt animals with the humans I thought that maybe an adolescent played with the dog. I think after adolescents played with the dogs adults eventually joined in. After a period of time I think that dogs were used as gifts for children to play with and for adults to hunt with. Once man adapted over time I think the dog became more of a family pet to be used for playing and hunting at the same time. Over time man became more domestic. Once cities were built people couldn't use their dog for hunting and more for just a playful family dog. My dog is a hunting dog so I do hunt with him, but I also use him as being a playful domestic backyard dog.
This article really fits me, because I have actually been wondering this for a long time now. I disagree with Sam and agree with Erica, dogs really are our friends. Having a dog as a pet actually helps you in terms of exercise, bonding, and even learning about the art of having a dog as a pet. However, Sam is also right, there was a big difference of how people thought of dogs now and how they thought of them a decade and a half ago. These days, dogs get much more respect. Before they were just known as pests, hostile creatures. I have a puppy myself though as a pet, and she has actually helped me get more fit, and gave me someone to relate with at my house. So overall, I think dogs are one of the best if not the best pet you can have.
I would also like to disagree with Erica. I agree with Hugh in that when the dogs went hunting along with the humans the humans saw the use in the dogs so they could hunt with the humans. I also agree with Arthur and Sam. I agree with Jonas that dogs these days are very nice as house pets if you can take care of them. Some Boys, maybe, would keep a dog to hunt with a little bit, maybe to have fun with but there was no "fetch" or "chase the ball" 13 hundred years ago. Anyway I found this article very enjoyable and I enjoyed hearing about how wolfs first started following along with the humans and how humans then saw what the dogs could be used for.
I agree with Sam. I love dogs, but I don't think people treated them like we treated them today. A boy in olden times wouldn't go walk his dog, he would learn to hunt and to hunt with a dog. Back then, dogs were used to catch food. They weren't supposed to be played with, they were supposed to be used as a hunting dog. In the article it said, scientists found a man cradling a puppy in Israel. This show that 12,000 people did play with dogs. Maybe they took care of them until they could hunt and then they would hunt with the humans. Either way, I think this article was really informing.
This article was amazing. It was really well written and thought out, and all the ideas were clear. I have never had a dog, so I can't say anything about bonds we may have with them, but I do notice that some of the other scientists seem awfully spiteful. I don't think that this idea is perfect, because as Sam said, it doesn't seem like their ideas should come to a close so easily. I saw a documentary on a place where they have been breeding foxes with each other, choosing only the nicest ones to be bred again, and they noticed that eventually their snouts got shorter, and their tails got curlier, resulting in a fox-puggish sort of thing. It was cute, though! I think this article was a good, informative article and thanks to Lilah for getting it. I really enjoyed this article.
I don't know what to say about this article. It wasn't very clear, or concise, for that matter. It was more of a bickering: Did wolves evolve into our dogs 13,000 or 32,100 years ago? Although there was this bickering, I think that is what the article wanted us to think. What everybody has been saying is right. This is the reason humans like dogs. They are able to adapt and meet your needs, whether you need a hunting dog, a play dog, or just a normal dog, they can do that. This brings me to my question, which is: Were there different types of wolves and dogs back then? My answer was something Extremely interesting. Dogs and humans may have evolved together. This might be the reason we have different kinds of dogs! Some people hunted, making hunting dogs. Other played, making playful dogs. Some didn't do much, making indoor dogs! As you can see, it all ties together. As a dog owner of my own, it is nice to know where my dog came from.
This article left me wondering about how dogs became our pets. I have a small, white dog, so I can relate to this article. My dog is very attached to my family, and lost her hair when my family went on a trip for 5 days. I've never really thought about how dogs became close friends to us, humans. It was a good article, but I was left needing more. I researched and found more information and hypothesis regarding this topic. I thought, could it be possible that dogs domesticated us instead of us domesticating them? Our ancestors have a long history with wolves. Apparently, many cultures have at some point put wolves to extinction. This includes countries such as America, where by 1930 wolves were wiped out in all the states. Wolves eat a lot, and usually consume one deer per ten wolves. They also don't share and are very protective of their food which would be strange because dogs are one of man's best friend. The aggressive wolves were probably killed, whereas the amiable ones were tolerated by humans. This friendliness could possibly have caused numerous dogs to have differences such as floppy ears and wagging tails. Hunting with dogs would give humans an advantage when compared to the ones without dogs. They were and are still used to detect prey. Moose hunters who lived in the alpines, would catch roughly 56 percent more when they had dogs with them. Some even believed that they would starve without dogs. They are also used as a warning system in which they will bark at intruders or trespassers from nearby tribes. Dogs can be very helpful to us who own one as our own pet.
Like others above, I highly doubt there was some sort of immediate connection between canine and man. And especially if you were to say that the whole /species/ bonded with humans right away, that is even more unbelievable. How would we be able to bond with another species if at the time we didn't even know much of our own (it was the Paleoindian period 13,000 years ago, and thus early humans were just settling I believe)?
I think that puppies are very close to us because they are furry, fluffy lumps. I think that we like puppies because thy are very playful and we can cuddle with them.
I think that puppies are very close to us because they are furry, fluffy lumps. I think that we like puppies because thy are very playful and we can cuddle with them.
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